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Justin Bieber

We need to look through Justin Bieber and fact check it. It's riddled with vandalism and it's not easy to tell which edits were constructive and which were intentional falsehoods. For example, Braum presented to Bieber to two successful artists, including Billie Eilish who was about 6 years old at the time? TagUser (talk) 21:19, 24 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Hi @TagUser, I've since updated the article but I'm not entirely sure if what's there is still correct, I think it is, Thanks, –Davey2010^Talk 23:42, 4 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@Davey2010 That seems good, thank you! TagUser (talk) 21:13, 5 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

You're welcome TU :), Happy editing, Warm Regards, –Davey2010^Talk 22:55, 5 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

IPAc-en

Hi, Just wondering; are articles here supposed to have {{IPAc-en}} in them ?, (Example: Zendaya /zɛnˈdeɪ.ə/;), I would consider these to be complex here but maybe that's just me ?, Thanks, –Davey2010^Talk 16:00, 3 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Complex - I sort of agree.--In theory, that thingy will be helpful to at least one person, over time..--I never use those, but i sometimes do online searches of "how to pronounce ...".--The question from user:Davey2010, reminds me of a way of doing things, which maybe is okay or maybe not:

simple.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=XPeng&diff=10113689&oldid=9922342
. If the Zendaya article had a similar link, then I would check out (or use) that link.--If my post is regarded as helpful, then fine. 2001:2020:355:AB0B:5D22:233D:8D4:6175 (talk) 19:02, 3 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I assume there are a lot of non-native English speakers who know IPA and read articles here, so it could be useful? Could anyone confirm this? 24.130.150.141 (talk) 19:10, 3 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

2001, Exactly but is it helpful to the majority of readers or is it just helpful to say 5 out of 1000 readers? (I'm inclined to go with the latter)

24, I'm British/a Native English speaker and even I don't get it although we all know I'm not the sharpest tool in the box anyway :),

I have in the past ummed and arred whether to get rid but chose not to as I've never knew if these actually serve a purpose to anyone here, Thanks, –Davey2010^Talk 22:22, 3 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Infobox settlement

There's a recent error on {{Infobox settlement}}. The settlement_type parameter is supposed to be centred, but on mobile view, it is left-aligned instead. Example: London 166.107.163.31 (talk) 22:12, 3 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I think this category needs fixed

Category:Sonic the Hedgehog
It has two characters like Knuckles and Miles "Tails" Prower in the category, but it leads to the main article: Sonic the Hedgehog
I think they were merged to the main article, but my own article is about Tails, Tails (Sonic). So should those be removed since they were merged by any chance or am I wrong? Thanks! 𝓐𝓭𝓮𝓵𝓪𝓲𝓭𝓮 ^{(𝓽𝓪𝓵𝓴 ♡ 𝓬𝓸𝓷𝓽𝓻𝓲𝓫𝓼)} 22:40, 4 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@Adelaideslement8723 It doesn't look as if they are (or were in the past) merged. I think the redirects are just because they have not been created yet at the time. All you need to do is to change the redirect from Sonic the Hedgehog to the article you just created, and it is the same if you wanted to create an article about Knuckles. Happy editingǃ ⯎ Aster alee ⯎ 22:48, 4 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Oh okay, that makes total sense! Thanks and have a great day! :) 𝓐𝓭𝓮𝓵𝓪𝓲𝓭𝓮 ^{(𝓽𝓪𝓵𝓴 ♡ 𝓬𝓸𝓷𝓽𝓻𝓲𝓫𝓼)} 22:49, 4 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Comment

Someone known as Queen Of Hearts "blocked" me...Billy Rebel. I am a member since 2008!!! The block is according to " Queen" that l am "advertising"...!!!! Nonsense. I do my best to add information for readers. Unblock me...it was rude to do that. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Billy Rebel (talk • contribs) 23:29, 4 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@Billy Rebel: You are blocked on English Wikipedia, not here. This is Simple English Wikipedia. You need to ask for an unblock on the site where you are blocked. -- Auntof6 (talk) 22:59, 5 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Account request

Hello. I cannot make an account! It says "this is a precaution against session hyjacking" Please help. 112.204.173.248 (talk) 11:46, 7 March 2025 (UTC) Also, A page called "ARB Gunes" is not written in English and is pure nonsense. ("Gunes" is in a different script.) 112.204.173.248 (talk) 12:19, 7 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Universal Code of Conduct annual review: proposed changes are available for comment

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I am writing to you to let you know that proposed changes to the Universal Code of Conduct (UCoC) Enforcement Guidelines and Universal Code of Conduct Coordinating Committee (U4C) Charter are open for review. You can provide feedback on suggested changes through the end of day on Tuesday, 18 March 2025. This is the second step in the annual review process, the final step will be community voting on the proposed changes. Read more information and find relevant links about the process on the UCoC annual review page on Meta.

The Universal Code of Conduct Coordinating Committee (U4C) is a global group dedicated to providing an equitable and consistent implementation of the UCoC. This annual review was planned and implemented by the U4C. For more information and the responsibilities of the U4C, you may review the U4C Charter.

Please share this information with other members in your community wherever else might be appropriate.

-- In cooperation with the U4C, Keegan (WMF) 18:51, 7 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

'Deleting' talk-pages without article being un-hoaxed

An important talk page has been 'deleted',
simple.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:List_of_shopping_malls_in_Moscow&oldid=10120288

. (That seems also to have been done without a relevant edit-remark.)--It would not be intuitive for me, to go back to that talk page.--Good luck (while i fix other articles). 2001:2020:343:A0B9:949F:568C:D821:3F8C (talk) 22:30, 7 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

We have IPs who think they're funny randomly creating talkpages and as such I thought you were one of those IPs, Seems I was wrong so I apologise for twice reverting you with the summary "vandalism", nonetheless your edits have been reverted again as your comment here makes no sense as the page isn't up for QD.

The article is tagged as a possible hoax however your comment doesn't really address that and you haven't bothered to edit the page, you're just waffling on about how part of the list is a hoax and that you wish us luck whilst you fix other articles.

Personally I don't see your comments as being helpful, needed or even productive. Please focus on editing articles instead of spamming talkpages with random waffle, Thanks. –Davey2010^Talk 00:47, 8 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I've also updated the 2 articles you had a problem with ..... something you could've simply done yourself, Thanks, –Davey2010^Talk 01:00, 8 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

User:Davey2010 had an apology, in post of "00:47, 8 March".--If you are more careful in 'Delete' of Talk-pages, then maybe we will not be re-visiting the topic, this month, and each month (moving forward).--Now, if there is less wiki-lawyering on select talk-pages (including Simple Talk), and more added (truthful) info in articles, then that is a good way to move forward.--(For topics un-related to "'Deleting' talk-pages without article being un-hoaxed", one should start a new thread somewhere.) 2001:2020:343:A0B9:751C:BADA:CC25:87C6 (talk) 08:04, 8 March 2025 (UTC) /2001:2020:343:A0B9:949F:568C:D821:3F8C[reply]

Happy Women's Day!

Happy Women's Day to all the amazing women in our community! Thank you for your contributions and dedication. Wishing you a wonderful day! BZPN (talk) 07:48, 8 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you! Have a great day to you too! <3
@BZPN 𝓐𝓭𝓮𝓵𝓪𝓲𝓭𝓮 ^{(𝓽𝓪𝓵𝓴 ♡ 𝓬𝓸𝓷𝓽𝓻𝓲𝓫𝓼)} 07:52, 8 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Oxford Comma

Should we or should we not include the Oxford Comma in wikipedia articles? Ieditrandomarticles (talk) 16:48, 8 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Personally, I'm in support of what en wiki has Wikipedia has no preference between the two styles, but requests that the chosen style be used consistently within an article from w:WP:Oxford comma. The holy wars over which comma style to use are only slightly less well known that Star Wars vs Star Trek and vi vs Emacs. Ravensfire (talk) 17:28, 8 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

These A.I. generated articles (from early March)

Cadillac Sollei.
Cadillac XT6.
The articles are not ready to stay published (and i ain't gonna be fixing those).--If anyone can make those disappear, then fine.--One i.p-user has been 'churning out' those, this evening. 2001:2020:343:A0B9:A046:14CD:E625:D70E (talk) 23:25, 8 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Now also, Cadillac Vistiq.--I have asked for QD ("A.I. generated nonsense"). 2001:2020:343:A0B9:5E7:F2A9:866:E1D0 (talk) 23:33, 8 March 2025 (UTC) /2001:2020:343:A0B9:A046:14CD:E625:D70E[reply]

i think the articles arent aí generated in my opnion also why you cant just fix them you a and i agree they arent perfect but instead of deleting them you can fix them and if they are gonna be deleted i dont care they arent perfect anyways good Lucky with your contribuições best regards

179.109.141.40 (talk) 23:38, 8 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

179.109.141.40 - Please stop creating articles, Yes I have previously hammered the point of "your articles are not perfect" but that doesn't mean "carry on and we'll fix them after you". Please take the time to read WP:Basic English and WP:BE 850, and try and better understand the words we use here.

2001 - For full transparency I've declined your QD as it wasn't AI/LLM generated content (it was a somewhat complex article but imho not enough to meet A3).

In short 179, you need to take a step back, read the links above, and better understand the words we use here. Thanks. –Davey2010^Talk 23:53, 8 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Ok from now on i will only do minor edits like adding categories redirecting and etc so ok i will not make articles anymore anyways good luck with your contribuitions best regards and stay safe. 179.109.141.40 (talk) 23:56, 8 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Okay brilliant thank you –Davey2010^Talk 23:58, 8 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Central Auth

I created this account 7 months ago on Wikipedia Simple English. I want to fix some minor error on Wikipedia English (Main Wikipedia) but see that my account was not linked. Other sister WikiProjects like Wikipedia news, Meta Wiki, Wikipedia Urdu, Wikipedia Turkish and many are linked with my same account but Not Wikipedia English (Main Wikipedia). Please help that how to link or can any Wikipedia Administrators can link my account to Main Wikipedia English. Thanks MD Edit 123 (talk) 16:37, 9 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Please reply to the discussion here

Wikipedia talk:Simple start#Create an article

We may want to change that page. 2601:644:8184:F2F0:2542:D326:DB72:ED19 (talk) 21:19, 9 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I'm being accused of copyviolation, is that true?

(I doubt whether I should ask this question here or at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard. I'm happy to move it to there)

At my ongoing unblock request at the English Wikipedia I'm being accused of copyviolation here (at Simple Wikipedia). Because its a serious accusation I would like to raise the issue here. If it is copyright violation it is a policy violation and it should be removed and I would like to rewrite it.

I start this topic because 1) its about simple Wikipedia, 2) I would like to improve me edits/works if they are non constructive, 3) I would like to explain here what I did and 4) I didn't start it at the English wikipedia becaue I can't start a topic there.

Valère Depoorter is "way too close paraphrasing of the source" of this source. (no specific sentences indicated)

The prose from Nieuwsblad van het Noorden after Google Translate translation; next to the article I wrote:

“Depoorter was best known in Avelgem for his 30-year political career,” says mayor Lut Deseyn. “When he first ran in 1964, he became alderman in a coalition with the then liberal mayor André Wymeersch.” “In the 1970 elections, Valère had to settle for a role in the opposition, but in 1976 he served as first alderman for the first 3 years under leader Roger Tack, after which Valère became mayor in 1980. He held this office until 1994. Valère Depoorter was loved by everyone because he governed his municipality like a true ‘father of the mayor’ without making any distinction between his residents.” — Joyce Mesdag (Nieuwsblad van het Noorden) (translated by Google Translate)	Valère Depoorter (c. 1930 – 9 December 2024) was a Belgian politician. His political career lasted 30 years and was for 14 years mayor of Avelgem from 1980 to 1994. Depoorter started his political career in Avelgem in 1964. He was a member of Christen-Democratisch en Vlaams (CD&V). He became municipal officer (in Belgium called "schepen") in a coalition with the liberal mayor André Wymeersch. After the 1970 elections, he ended up in the opposition. In 1976 he was for three years the first alderman under Roger Tack. Depoorter became mayor of Avelgem in 1980. He retired in 1994 and was succeeded by Lieven Vantieghem. Depoorter is praised that during his time he was mayor he made no "distinction between the residents" and that he was was "loved by everyone". Depoorter died on 9 December 2024, at the age of 94 years old.

I used four articles that are stating more ore less the same content. In the Wikipedia article I list the factual information from the four articles. Note that the for articles are short with a lot of factual information. If you start writing a Wikipedia article in a chronological sequence with the factual information from these articles, it is logical that the listing of the data is consistent and the time sequence is the same. But if the content is the same, it is not yet copyrightviolation.

Piet Zwaanswijk with "Copyvio/close paraphrasing"

It's about one specific sentense in the article. In the article I translated a part of a sentence literally on purpose from what was written; because he is according to that article regarded like that. After rereading I placed de two subjective statements between "" to make that even more clear.

"Piet Zwaanswijk was one of the most respected post-war visual artists of Haarlem. His work had a profound influence on the local art scene" — Wessel van Opstal (haarlem105.nl) (translated by Google Translate)	Zwaanswijk is regarded as "one of the most respected post-World War II visual artists of Haarlem" and his work had a "profound influence on the local art scene" After rereading I added two times "" Zwaanswijk is regarded as "one of the most respected post-World War II visual artists of Haarlem" and his work had a "profound influence on the local art scene"

(Side note: This secion is absolutly not meant for a discussion about my block request. But what in my unblock request, several people have problems with my English prose writing here at Simple Wiki (sorry I'm not native) or article notabilty. Please come to me and let me know as I'm happy to work on it.)

Thanks for your time, SportsOlympic (talk) 14:46, 31 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I believe en:WP:LIMITED applies to the Valère Depoorter example. For Piet Zwaanswijk, I agree that the original lack of quotations was a problem, not simply from the copyvio angle, but because it was a statement of the form "regarded as... the most <something>", which generally requires some form of attribution per en:MOS:QUOTEPOV, and that editors need to be careful to not express that statement in "Wikipedia's own voice". Chenzw Talk 15:32, 31 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

SportsOlympic, thanks for reaching out. I know it is a lot of work to create all these articles. In my opinion, to avoid influencing the discussion of your unban request at enWP, I believe it would be best if we review examples together with other content editors at a later time and decide how improvements can be made. That being said, although "x is regarded as ..." with a citation is actually somewhat common on Wikipedia articles, it is not supported by MOS. Griff (talk) 15:44, 31 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Griffinofwales: Note the unblock request was unsuccessfull, mainly due to this accusation. There has been silence her since December. Please let me know if my style is an issue and if I should stop writing due to quality reasons? SportsOlympic (talk) 14:04, 10 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Req for allowing these WP articles to be created

I'm requesting "clearance" to remake articles that I've posted (copied from another website and simplified) which have since been deleted, even though they should stay up. I'll put a lot of effort into taking the feedback and guidance that I got from the main two users that had a problem with them to do it properly and how the community wants it to be. But in putting in this effort and making the articles in my own free time I hope there can be some sort of guarantee that all of them won't be deleted suddenly and en mass.

Taking the feedback and WP rules in with these articles will involve: writing my own articles, in simplified English; following the same structure to include all of the information, but from lots of different (cited) sources and in my own simplified words; and not putting (the) Wikipedia at risk with the articles, wherein Wikipedia is NOT a medical institution, and I am NOT a doctor.

The articles I hope to make are all of the pharma/drugs articles for medications and medical alternatives that are both/all used by doctors to practises of the same alternatives which are more common, old, or perhaps used often used by some in the same countries that simple:WP targets. I will also be interested in Chinese medicines and herbs soon and would love to share that with the wiki if it would be appreciated.

The (first batch of articles) medications I would create are the same as the now deleted articles. My highest priority with these are the medications info that supports other simple wiki articles such as beta blockers (i am just making you aware here that i posted that article.) as an example, which is supported with links to these articles with more information on them for this topic such as [[labetalol] and propanolol, for example. These articles are useful information for the website for free information and should stay up, in my opinion. The example page is what I would like to do, the article linking to some articles on medication, a certain amount, and a certain amount of articles on others. I think it is important that other countries that are not as well off, or people that are not as well off or don't have access to the same education as other people do, have access to the information because they may be future doctors in their country. Conversely, patients using these drugs need to be fully aware and informed to not actually do something dangerous, so that having a simplified and English version from Wikipedia will make them safer.

The articles following that will hopefully be after I ask the government for some kind of help, to further improve the usefulness and reliability of my contributions or make sure the quality stays consistent. I also hope to create or edit articles in other medical fields and edit some of the speciality ones where it is relevant, make them about organ failure, bacteria, air pollution and so on.

By doing so, I hope to make more information freely accessible in simplified English not behind paywalls, for the readers of this sub wiki to have access to it. I believe that knowledge should be like this, by the way, for any use the reader has for it (from feedback about dangerous information). The spreading and absorbing of knowledge should be unbounded. My long-term goal would be for the subject (and subjects) to be complete with information and connected together properly (such as with the beta blockers page with links out to an article on some medications in the article). Another big goal would be to have government help so these countries would benefit as a whole from this small or small-scale effort; and this includes putting correct information to those without the facilities to properly learn or train people. That would include making the information accessible to places without training in roles because of reasons that may be there. I would also like to gain employment or funding to then work for the government as a doctor after getting a medical license.

(This is not the final draft of this post and I will probably edit it later. I will be following this article and hope to see discussion on how to be able to create these articles without them being deleted) W;ChangingUsername (talk) 09:48, 11 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

On the talk-page of user:W;ChangingUsername, i have today asked two questions.--(If the user can answer those 2 questions, on that talk-page, then those two (new) threads, might give some ideas on 'where we might be heading'.)

simple.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk%3AW%3BChangingUsername&diff=10127446&oldid=10054810
. 2001:2020:351:B494:F4DE:870:DF65:17F6 (talk) 14:12, 11 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Is this article too complicatd?

I translated this from english wikipedia about 2 days ago but I don't know if its simple enough. I feel like it is fine but i'ts better safe than sorry. Metro Transit (Minnesota) Ieditrandomarticles (talk) 21:40, 11 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Readability is good, so well done. Using an online readability checker (such as Hemingway) will help you find issues that could make it even better. Peterdownunder (talk) 22:16, 11 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]